A man must be made of steel so that when the fires of life come, he emerges stronger and without defect.These are the chronicles of my time in the flames.I am the Acolyte now but will not be so for long........
Stainless Steel: 10 nil!Amen to the whole issue on the "N" word. Like you, I fail to understand why black folk insist on using it. There was an episode of the District where some white man wanted to shoot the black cop while calling him nigger. His partner, a white woman, almost bashed the man's head. Then when they were back in their cruiser heading out, black cop puts on the radio, and a rap song comes on full of nigga this nigga that, and he was bobbing his head to it. White woman asks him, "Back there I was ready to bash that man's head for calling you nigger, and now here you are dancing to a song full of the same word?" His response? We own the word. So we can use it. I don't expect you to understand. You know what? I didn't understand it either.
@ EGMI think I know how the partner must have felt. Black folk here have a warped way of justifying the use of that word but it appalls me when fellow Kenyans blindly go with the flow.
I feel u on the nigga word. Cant believe pple actually gv a difference as 'er'...its all the same damn it.Bamboo is a flimsy artiste coz all he does is emulate The Game, Nas and others. As 4 attitude no comment. Listen 2 his music in Myspace.Remember 'Compe' by Bamboo right b4 he got saved? Its going 2 be used in sme hollywood movie and his getting paid Shs.4 Million!Hope that gvs him an insight on what type of music 2 do. Ukoo Flani are the realest hiphop artistes we hv! Wengine ni maclone.
I saw that clip some time back...i must say i wasnt amused at all. copycating from top to bottom-whatever happened to originality:-(
LMAO ROTFLMAO TIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI @ stainless steel!!!Aki hapo you have dinyad that point.I have Bamboo's "Binti" song on mp3 and when I saw this song I was like...AAAIIII!!!! Sawa, you can flow, but who are you singing for? Kwani it took NY to backslide a jamaa!!!Aco...applause to you!OOHHH...I was here too!!!
you said it. dude. you said it.about bamboo and copycatting, even the beat is a ripp off...that's from a bongo track 'kimya kimya'. nilidhani ame-improve kumbe he's losing it. i agree with unyc on ukoo flani...keep it real.
Booking my top 10 spot. Off to read.
Although I haven't heard the Bamboo track yet, for sure he's gone downhill since his days as part of K South. About some Kenyan rappers thinking they're American now, all you have to do is listen to this group called Baseline, of which Attitude was a member and Bamboo did a couple of collabos. I don't even think their album was launched in Kenya, or if it did, it must have been a major flop coz these wannabes thought they'd impress Kenyans with their fake accents and imitation of American rappers. While Bamboo has gone downhill, his former mate Abbas Kubaff a.k.a Jerry Doobies has gone from strength to strength. I see Bamboo trying to get back with Abbas in future.
You are very right Archer about Doobies. I watched him perform(he also requested to shoot his video) at WAPI last saturday, he has a new song out and its better than his last. Talks about the realities of an artist trying to make it in the Kenyan music industry. I won't waste my energy talking about Bamboo. Kapuka na Genge kwangu ni makelele tupu.
Watching that clip you cannot tell anything Kenyan about those dudes washindwe! Copycatting all over the place will do nothing for their careers.I do not think the "N" word adds any "homeliness" to a statement. It is a derogative term period.
Nigger is Nigga is Nigger.is kumbafu and pumbavu different just coz of the spelling? i know kibaki thinks(knows) that kubaff is different from p(k)umbav(f)u. on local music, i like the ones in swa and sheng. something i can't get elsewhere. that is why i choose to call it local.
even from a business point of view, it makes no sense. Thought to succeed you need to find your niche or create one and exploit it. They have a niche already. Why they choose not to exploit it only they know. Do they think such a song can even be entered in any awards eg MTV under African Diaspora?
I hate kenyan kapuka. Coz its nonsense. My post about this is in draft mode. Wacha I fika home leo, and try and finish it.
thought bambooo was saved .what happened to him
Artists like Attitude and Bamboo are totally lost. Bamboo had a thing going when he did ' Nairoberry" but now this crap!!!As for Attitude.... why bother rant on him.
He has a liberal sprinkling of the N word all over the last bit of the song. He got mad rapping skills but like you say he needs direction. The chorus sounds like they both wanted their rapping heard over each other - compe ama nini? He should go back to his roots.
The Epitome of Kenyan rap for me is Jua Cali... Unique style, refreshing, flowing and well thought out lyrics!The guy that does US style but still rocks is Jahmani for his flawless use of Swa and Sheng...Bamboo is a talent when he does swa rap, otherwise he's just a sell-out...
Will not co-sign the usage of the word Nigga...I believe the market these two are aiming for is AMERICAN(however misguided ..the abudance of average ass emcee's is HUGE in America)but this track is tad bit uncreative, with attitude I could see the usage of Nigga figuring he was born and raised here...On the flipside though I as Kenyan can see why others will be put off and will not touch the material... but at the same time I hope its CONTENT that putting YOU off not the medium.lol Aco the soundscan numbers are not in yet...@Mil.. nice to see you back..I could swear jua cali said he does not do RAP.
K-South was just the bomb. The flow and the lyrics ...How the mighty have fallen!
Bw. Aco Get serious and wacha these sideposts... spend more time on the story... part 4...LMAO
sigh, kenyans, ebu we stop trying to be other people. read an article in focus on africa and a guy was more or less hating on the fact that kenyans lack an identity. i was annoyed at what he said, but peeps like bamboo are the ones who chafua us jina. anywho,'I doubt he has even hit stainless steel'...i died!
@ unycI think Bamboo has alot of talent but I think that track as ill advised and in bad taste.@ chatterlySeems originality died in the case of this track.@ MochaI think Bamboo is trying to break into the NY mc market. I wish him all the best but he shouldnt try and sell this music to Kenyans.Thanks!@ modoathiiDamn! Now that is just cold, I do hope he as acknowledged the original beatmakers.@ ArcherI guess the two of them are going in diff directions.@ n.w I will look out for that video on youtube when it comes out.@ prouI agree with your sentiments on that word.@ bomsehLol a fool is a fool by any other name huh?@ ichienaOne thing for sure I know is that we wont be seeing that song on the source awards any time soon.@ udiI am looking out for that post with baited breath!@ the truthWell he still says he is saved but I dont know what that means in his case.@ no rhymeI have always wondered how Attitude makes his money.@ aegeusBamboo does have talent, that I will not refuse but as you said, he needs to focus.@ MiloI am Jua Cali fan for life too!He keeps it real!@ MsaniiLet's hope Bamboo comes up with something better for wanainchi at the end of the day. Very few foreign MCs have broken into the American market, I wonder If Bamboo will manage.@ MSad state of affairs.@ coldtuskerThings are unfolding in real time, what I am doing is watching from the sidelines.@ mama shadyI disagree with that dude, we have more that one identity as Kenyans due to our multifaceted society. but I agree Bamboo has dissed us big time!
Thanx Aco for enlightening those 'wannabes'. Oh first things first , it's POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL! As for Bamboo, I listened to a track where he's used The Game's -It's OK( One Blood), I almost fell off my seat...it's a lot of balderdash about local music. Then he hooks up with one Attitude ( US/Kenyan wannabe, Lord save us from such guys !) I can't believe that Mercy Myra dates such a guy, for what ? 'Bring, bring'? It's such a mismatch like Bobby( but Attitude doesn't match the exploits of Bobby B at his best, as for his other life... and Whitney ( we all know what happened).Let Bamboo listen to Abbas 'Kubaff', Ukoo Fulani/Mau Mau-Wenyeji( man have you listened to their Mizani track ? Too deadly !Oh and when in Nairobi he might want to visit WAPI which has become an exposition for underground artistes !Guess that's all for my lamentations *****$$$$!!!
I'm with you on using the word "nigga." The whole gangsta image has been over-glamorized and it makes no sense for those who aren't part of that world to embrace it wholeheartedly: it's dangerous and hard.I'm also eagerly waiting for part 4!
I talked to some Kenyan producer here in the states and this was their take. Akon is successful. Akon didn't do Senegalese music. He did his thing. If Bamboo is feeling like selling music to Americans instead of Kenyans. Well and good. If he hits, all Kenyans will still want to identify with him as their son. At the end you know what? I agree with that. Every artist has the right to choose their own path, whether good or bad. Don't like their music, then don't buy it.
@ JoshIf you listen to Akon's early songs ie Belly dancer, you will notice that there is an African influence to them. It is that unique style that sells his music, even if it is a bit more Americanised now it is still uniquely Akon. Bamboo's music has been unique but he threw away his style to be Americanised and as a result this track is nothing to write home about. At the end of the day he can choose to be a grade A Kenyan MC or a grade C Wannabe MC. It's his choice at the end of the day.
No offence but where the hell do you get so much time to hate on a NIGGA like that? Yes I said it. Deal with it. If the song does not please you then clearly it wasn't made for you. All you had to do is find another kenyan song that you like. Move on and stop wasting your time hating on NIGGAS making money. The jokes on you now.
@ kjkogiIf I was really hating on Bamboo why then would I refer to his talent time and again? Why would I simply refer to this song as a step in the wrong direction and not as the death of his career?You speak of bamboo making money. Please show me the figures of his record sales and such? The most succesful Kenyan artistes are those who have an original style that reflects who they are, not those who ape the American style. If Bamboo wants to make music for Americans he can do so but at the end of the day, America isnt the most receptive market when it comes to foreign artistes esp those who do music American style.Plus I am entitled to my own opinion, that is why it is my blog.ps: You choose to call Bamboo a nigga. Most probably you are a nigger in your own head, because instead of thinking clearly, you reason like one. Next time read, read again and then comment!
Seriously. Spend this time thinking of how to make money or actually making some. This is too much time spent on the wrong reasons. First of all this guy does not care about you. He's all about hustling than music. It's a business for him. Am sure you have one too. Wonna get back to it? Someone else out there likes the music. Ain't got that much time anyway to spend on this.
@ kjkogiFirst things first. Who tells you that I am not making any money? Second of all who tells you I am not thinking of ways to make money?Third you need to read Msanii's comment if you are talking about the track,hustling and making money. Fourth, you are the one who is wasting time on this post when everyone else has moved on. My blog, my opinion; you don't like it? MOVE ON!!!
mazee mazee. Ati Kenyan. My foot. I live in Stato and I don't think i'd like to be caught dead walking with Bamboo and his fake-twang friend. Seriously, the song is plain crap and does nothing to project Kenya into the international scene. Alafu the video is WHACKK! DAMN! Ata Kenyan underground Mc's do better.
I give props to these kats for "Trying hard", it takes guts & courage to "rap/perform/" whether you suck or not!Now the Major Differences btwn Bamboo/Attitude with an "average kenyan Mc":1.Confidence- Have self Believe.2.Arrogance - Only worked in Kenya, not in the USA. The LA rugby performance/show was a good example and their downfall.3.Networking - working with the right folks,some kenyan DVD documentary is actually what put them on the MAP.......period! Back to your Qns!Is Bamboo making music for Kenyans?Nope! the new songs are trying penetrate into the competitive US mainstream hiphop market.good luck!Use of the Nigga Word? Gikuyu please! What he outta say! I do agree the boy can recite a rap? Bila shida! But can you relate to his Rap?
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Stainless Steel: 10 nil!
Amen to the whole issue on the "N" word. Like you, I fail to understand why black folk insist on using it. There was an episode of the District where some white man wanted to shoot the black cop while calling him nigger. His partner, a white woman, almost bashed the man's head. Then when they were back in their cruiser heading out, black cop puts on the radio, and a rap song comes on full of nigga this nigga that, and he was bobbing his head to it. White woman asks him, "Back there I was ready to bash that man's head for calling you nigger, and now here you are dancing to a song full of the same word?" His response? We own the word. So we can use it. I don't expect you to understand. You know what? I didn't understand it either.
@ EGM
I think I know how the partner must have felt. Black folk here have a warped way of justifying the use of that word but it appalls me when fellow Kenyans blindly go with the flow.
I feel u on the nigga word. Cant believe pple actually gv a difference as 'er'...its all the same damn it.
Bamboo is a flimsy artiste coz all he does is emulate The Game, Nas and others. As 4 attitude no comment. Listen 2 his music in Myspace.
Remember 'Compe' by Bamboo right b4 he got saved? Its going 2 be used in sme hollywood movie and his getting paid Shs.4 Million!
Hope that gvs him an insight on what type of music 2 do.
Ukoo Flani are the realest hiphop artistes we hv! Wengine ni maclone.
I saw that clip some time back...i must say i wasnt amused at all. copycating from top to bottom-whatever happened to originality:-(
LMAO ROTFLMAO TIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI @ stainless steel!!!
Aki hapo you have dinyad that point.
I have Bamboo's "Binti" song on mp3 and when I saw this song I was like...AAAIIII!!!! Sawa, you can flow, but who are you singing for? Kwani it took NY to backslide a jamaa!!!
Aco...applause to you!
OOHHH...I was here too!!!
you said it. dude. you said it.
about bamboo and copycatting, even the beat is a ripp off...that's from a bongo track 'kimya kimya'. nilidhani ame-improve kumbe he's losing it. i agree with unyc on ukoo flani...
keep it real.
Booking my top 10 spot. Off to read.
Although I haven't heard the Bamboo track yet, for sure he's gone downhill since his days as part of K South. About some Kenyan rappers thinking they're American now, all you have to do is listen to this group called Baseline, of which Attitude was a member and Bamboo did a couple of collabos. I don't even think their album was launched in Kenya, or if it did, it must have been a major flop coz these wannabes thought they'd impress Kenyans with their fake accents and imitation of American rappers. While Bamboo has gone downhill, his former mate Abbas Kubaff a.k.a Jerry Doobies has gone from strength to strength. I see Bamboo trying to get back with Abbas in future.
You are very right Archer about Doobies. I watched him perform(he also requested to shoot his video) at WAPI last saturday, he has a new song out and its better than his last. Talks about the realities of an artist trying to make it in the Kenyan music industry. I won't waste my energy talking about Bamboo. Kapuka na Genge kwangu ni makelele tupu.
Watching that clip you cannot tell anything Kenyan about those dudes washindwe! Copycatting all over the place will do nothing for their careers.
I do not think the "N" word adds any "homeliness" to a statement. It is a derogative term period.
Nigger is Nigga is Nigger.
is kumbafu and pumbavu different just coz of the spelling? i know kibaki thinks(knows) that kubaff is different from p(k)umbav(f)u.
on local music, i like the ones in swa and sheng. something i can't get elsewhere. that is why i choose to call it local.
even from a business point of view, it makes no sense. Thought to succeed you need to find your niche or create one and exploit it. They have a niche already. Why they choose not to exploit it only they know. Do they think such a song can even be entered in any awards eg MTV under African Diaspora?
I hate kenyan kapuka. Coz its nonsense. My post about this is in draft mode. Wacha I fika home leo, and try and finish it.
thought bambooo was saved .what happened to him
Artists like Attitude and Bamboo are totally lost. Bamboo had a thing going when he did ' Nairoberry" but now this crap!!!
As for Attitude.... why bother rant on him.
He has a liberal sprinkling of the N word all over the last bit of the song. He got mad rapping skills but like you say he needs direction. The chorus sounds like they both wanted their rapping heard over each other - compe ama nini? He should go back to his roots.
The Epitome of Kenyan rap for me is Jua Cali... Unique style, refreshing, flowing and well thought out lyrics!
The guy that does US style but still rocks is Jahmani for his flawless use of Swa and Sheng...
Bamboo is a talent when he does swa rap, otherwise he's just a sell-out...
Will not co-sign the usage of the word Nigga...
I believe the market these two are aiming for is AMERICAN(however misguided ..the abudance of average ass emcee's is HUGE in America)
but this track is tad bit uncreative, with attitude I could see the usage of Nigga figuring he was born and raised here...
On the flipside though I as Kenyan can see why others will be put off and will not touch the material... but at the same time I hope its CONTENT that putting YOU off not the medium.
lol Aco the soundscan numbers are not in yet...
@Mil.. nice to see you back..I could swear jua cali said he does not do RAP.
K-South was just the bomb. The flow and the lyrics ...
How the mighty have fallen!
Bw. Aco Get serious and wacha these sideposts... spend more time on the story... part 4...
LMAO
sigh, kenyans, ebu we stop trying to be other people. read an article in focus on africa and a guy was more or less hating on the fact that kenyans lack an identity. i was annoyed at what he said, but peeps like bamboo are the ones who chafua us jina. anywho,'I doubt he has even hit stainless steel'...i died!
@ unyc
I think Bamboo has alot of talent but I think that track as ill advised and in bad taste.
@ chatterly
Seems originality died in the case of this track.
@ Mocha
I think Bamboo is trying to break into the NY mc market. I wish him all the best but he shouldnt try and sell this music to Kenyans.
Thanks!
@ modoathii
Damn! Now that is just cold, I do hope he as acknowledged the original beatmakers.
@ Archer
I guess the two of them are going in diff directions.
@ n.w
I will look out for that video on youtube when it comes out.
@ prou
I agree with your sentiments on that word.
@ bomseh
Lol a fool is a fool by any other name huh?
@ ichiena
One thing for sure I know is that we wont be seeing that song on the source awards any time soon.
@ udi
I am looking out for that post with baited breath!
@ the truth
Well he still says he is saved but I dont know what that means in his case.
@ no rhyme
I have always wondered how Attitude makes his money.
@ aegeus
Bamboo does have talent, that I will not refuse but as you said, he needs to focus.
@ Milo
I am Jua Cali fan for life too!He keeps it real!
@ Msanii
Let's hope Bamboo comes up with something better for wanainchi at the end of the day. Very few foreign MCs have broken into the American market, I wonder If Bamboo will manage.
@ M
Sad state of affairs.
@ coldtusker
Things are unfolding in real time, what I am doing is watching from the sidelines.
@ mama shady
I disagree with that dude, we have more that one identity as Kenyans due to our multifaceted society. but I agree Bamboo has dissed us big time!
Thanx Aco for enlightening those 'wannabes'. Oh first things first , it's POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL!
As for Bamboo, I listened to a track where he's used The Game's -It's OK( One Blood), I almost fell off my seat...it's a lot of balderdash about local music. Then he hooks up with one Attitude ( US/Kenyan wannabe, Lord save us from such guys !) I can't believe that Mercy Myra dates such a guy, for what ? 'Bring, bring'? It's such a mismatch like Bobby( but Attitude doesn't match the exploits of Bobby B at his best, as for his other life... and Whitney ( we all know what happened).
Let Bamboo listen to Abbas 'Kubaff', Ukoo Fulani/Mau Mau-Wenyeji( man have you listened to their Mizani track ? Too deadly !Oh and when in Nairobi he might want to visit WAPI which has become an exposition for underground artistes !
Guess that's all for my lamentations *****$$$$!!!
I'm with you on using the word "nigga." The whole gangsta image has been over-glamorized and it makes no sense for those who aren't part of that world to embrace it wholeheartedly: it's dangerous and hard.
I'm also eagerly waiting for part 4!
I talked to some Kenyan producer here in the states and this was their take. Akon is successful. Akon didn't do Senegalese music. He did his thing. If Bamboo is feeling like selling music to Americans instead of Kenyans. Well and good. If he hits, all Kenyans will still want to identify with him as their son.
At the end you know what? I agree with that. Every artist has the right to choose their own path, whether good or bad. Don't like their music, then don't buy it.
@ Josh
If you listen to Akon's early songs ie Belly dancer, you will notice that there is an African influence to them. It is that unique style that sells his music, even if it is a bit more Americanised now it is still uniquely Akon. Bamboo's music has been unique but he threw away his style to be Americanised and as a result this track is nothing to write home about.
At the end of the day he can choose to be a grade A Kenyan MC or a grade C Wannabe MC. It's his choice at the end of the day.
No offence but where the hell do you get so much time to hate on a NIGGA like that? Yes I said it. Deal with it. If the song does not please you then clearly it wasn't made for you. All you had to do is find another kenyan song that you like. Move on and stop wasting your time hating on NIGGAS making money. The jokes on you now.
@ kjkogi
If I was really hating on Bamboo why then would I refer to his talent time and again? Why would I simply refer to this song as a step in the wrong direction and not as the death of his career?
You speak of bamboo making money. Please show me the figures of his record sales and such? The most succesful Kenyan artistes are those who have an original style that reflects who they are, not those who ape the American style. If Bamboo wants to make music for Americans he can do so but at the end of the day, America isnt the most receptive market when it comes to foreign artistes esp those who do music American style.
Plus I am entitled to my own opinion, that is why it is my blog.
ps: You choose to call Bamboo a nigga. Most probably you are a nigger in your own head, because instead of thinking clearly, you reason like one.
Next time read, read again and then comment!
Seriously. Spend this time thinking of how to make money or actually making some. This is too much time spent on the wrong reasons. First of all this guy does not care about you. He's all about hustling than music. It's a business for him. Am sure you have one too. Wonna get back to it? Someone else out there likes the music. Ain't got that much time anyway to spend on this.
@ kjkogi
First things first. Who tells you that I am not making any money? Second of all who tells you I am not thinking of ways to make money?
Third you need to read Msanii's comment if you are talking about the track,hustling and making money. Fourth, you are the one who is wasting time on this post when everyone else has moved on. My blog, my opinion; you don't like it? MOVE ON!!!
mazee mazee. Ati Kenyan. My foot. I live in Stato and I don't think i'd like to be caught dead walking with Bamboo and his fake-twang friend. Seriously, the song is plain crap and does nothing to project Kenya into the international scene. Alafu the video is WHACKK! DAMN! Ata Kenyan underground Mc's do better.
I give props to these kats for "Trying hard", it takes guts & courage to "rap/perform/" whether you suck or not!
Now the Major Differences btwn Bamboo/Attitude with an "average kenyan Mc":
1.Confidence- Have self Believe.
2.Arrogance - Only worked in Kenya, not in the USA. The LA rugby performance/show was a good example and their downfall.
3.Networking - working with the right folks,some kenyan DVD documentary is actually what put them on the MAP.......period!
Back to your Qns!
Is Bamboo making music for Kenyans?
Nope! the new songs are trying penetrate into the competitive US mainstream hiphop market.good luck!
Use of the Nigga Word? Gikuyu please! What he outta say!
I do agree the boy can recite a rap? Bila shida!
But can you relate to his Rap?
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