Monday, May 22, 2006

Church Or Business - No Difference!

I have always been a cynic whenever it comes to churches and ministries, especially these new age/pentecostal churches that seem to revolve more around signs, wonders, certain doctrines and the individuals who head the church as opposed to the Bible.
I had the good fortune or should I say misfortune of working for one run by a Dutchman.I am sure those of you who were in Kenya in late 2004 onwards heard of a church that was mainly ministering to prostitutes and street people in Nairobi.
The church used to meet at the Grand Regency and then moved to the 680 hotel for its weekly meetings that were held every Saturday night.Saturday nights were chosen as they were convienient for the girls, they could get ministered to and then continue with their whoring uninterrupted.
Well the head honcho of the company hired me and some other people to set up a portal.The idea that he had sounded very good on paper and he even went to the States where he got an endorsement from Jesse Duplantiss that you can see here and From Pastor Lai (the guy in Mombasa who has the very large church) see here.But the problem was that he seemed to had bitten off more then he could chew.
The whole concept would be like lets say MSN but much larger and the content of the articles would be family oriented/christian.Yes that sounds good, so writers were hired and were expected to do 6 articles a day.I kid you not!6 articles per day!I am sure we have seen how writers who churn out on article per week ie Oyunga Pala often have writers block and these people were expecting 6 articles per day!Of course some people tried to write them but in the end resorted to cut copy and paste!
I was part of the web design and graphic department.Our job was to do the different websites that would fall under the main site.The worst thing about this job is that the head honcho would not listen to the opinions of the designers and the html people (me and my colleagues).To add insult to injury we used to be made to re-do and scrap work so many times!A website would often have a life span of two or three days after you tweak it due to changes being recommended by the head honcho and his yes men.And then at the end of the day he would see something interesting on the net and that would mean the end of that and something new!
And of course a design had to be approved before we had the pleasure of turning it into html.So after having enough free time to delete spam from my email address and to chat to all my pals on yahoo msgr/msn, rack up over 100 posts on some forums or the required number so that I became a guru or was allowed to change avatars (yes I used to be that bored!) and that is when I began blogging.Imagine going to work and having to think of ways to keep busy as the higher ups will not give you any extra work (well I did want more work so I could be paid more!).As a result of having to sit 6-8 hours in front of a comp doing jack, my attention span was shot to hell.So the only way I keep busy nowadays is by doing two things at the same time.It is still apparent nowadays, this weekend I went to visit a pal and she asked me, "do you always do 2 things at the same time?"This is because I was using the laptop and watching tv at the same time!If I am only using the comp I usually have like 10 windows open!Anyway enough about my ADD!
Then the worst thing is come 5pm when the staff bus was coming to pick us, is when one of the yes men would run in with a design to be turned into a web page!Aaaaaaaargh!And then we would be taken home at midnight or later!But on the plus during the earlier days when suckers' money was flowing we used to be bought food from village market.The Thai food from Village Market rocks and so do the pizzas!One of those medium sized pizzas could feed you for 3 days and they tasted great, not like the flavoured pieces of cardboard sold here!
Oh did I fail to mention that we worked in Runda?Good thing there was a staff bus as the house we worked in was miles away from the main gate.But on the plus that ride gave me something to aspire to.You need to see the houses in Runda!My Lord!Veritable Castles and Villas!Runda is a good sight to motivate you to work or steal hard!Then again so is Muthaiga but that is a story for another day!
We used to work in this big ass house that had the insulation of a box.So it used to be strange to come from the heat of nai to freeze in a big empty ass house!Then these cheap Dutch folk did not provide lunch or a microwave to heat your packed lunch.But they did used to provide Britannia biscuits, milk powder, coffee and tea leaves.The first few days we being the enterprising young folk we were, many would not have breakfast at home as you had to be in town by 7.30am for the bus and would fall upon the bikkies first thing we got to the office.A box would be emptied at arrival and another by lunchtime.But the thing is that the taste of biscuits gets real old, real fast so the same people who used to eat 2 handfuls of brittanias were now eating 5 per day.But lucky for us, the money man who was also dutch had a personal assistant who would be sent on errands and we used to send her for fries (sarah ebu holla at a boy umepotea huko UK sana!), but her return times were erratic so you could find yourself eating fries and sausage from Kenchic (damn those greasy fries were good!) at 11 am or 3 pm!Then to counter the cold in the office Aco borrowed one of his mother's shawls that he would wrap around his legs to counter the heat (Shawls rock!).
Oh I have almost forgot, there were chics who were hired to do fashion designs.Their target was 20 fashions each by the end of the day.All they had to do was draw pictures.They were told that materials and the rest of what they needed would be bought for them from India so they could start work. When we were talking this over with one of them, I made the observation that a design is nothing without a pattern and fabric samples (but what did those girls know?They were just designers!).
The strangest thing was that of the 8 or so dutch folk (The big man, his wife, brother in law + wife,his second in command + wife, his money man + wife, his dutch worship leader) is that they used to live and breathe their work and the church meetings!The furthest they used to go was Village Market and of course the once a week meetings at the 680. Other then that they never used to bother to travel or even know more about Nairobi or even bother to meet the other Dutch people in Nairobi!
One of the big Man's new ideas was to get a group of prostitutes, take them off the street, house them and their children and turn them into a singing group that would be flown around Europe to raise money for the battered women's shelter they were planning on putting up and other ministry activities.So a group of girls was chosen and the mansion across the road that shared the compound with the one we worked in was rented for them to live in.
These girls were given a small allowance and given singing lessons and bible study.That reminds me, there was this girl who was hired to write songs and record them with their funding.Well they took their time arranging for her to record so she was made to be writer (despite the fact that wasn't her field of expertise!). And then the shameless people that they are a few months later they asked her if she could be staying back to teach the girls how to sing!They wanted her to be doing that double work instead of just having her teach them from the oneset.
Working with these folk also did away with the oft held belief that white folk are more organised then us.These were the most disorganised people I have ever met!Every Saturday meeting was an excercise in chaos!The personal assistant to the money man used to tell them it would be easier if they started organising such things in advance but you know what the big man told her?"You africans dont know how to think fast that is why you have to start organising early" or something like that, it isnt verbatim.
Ah, that reminds me one more time of how during the launch things were do disorganised that the big Man didnt have the proper shoes and some had to be bought at the neigbouring Bata.They hired this guy who used to organise events to be doing their events under the understanding that this was to be a full time job and after him doing two events they fired him.To make things worse he had gone on hiatus from his own business as this job was well paying.He was having none of this and brought his lawyer and they managed to come to an amicable arrangement.It was heart warming to see his story a few weeks back in the Nation, as his business seemed to be doing really well and he had even managed to put a 6 figure capital in it and it was paying good dividends at the time of the story's publication.Same thing happened to the chic who was the head of our department.She used to call things like they were and used to knock heads with the Big Man's second in command who used to veto many of her decisions, so push came to shove and she was shown the door; I too used to think she was hard headed but she used to be fair so I think that decision was uncalled for.She went into business for herself and last I heard she was doing really well.One of the workers in the IT section got a job offer that seemed more concrete (he was to be a lecturer at Daystar University), when he told them he was leaving they offered to double his pay, he refused so they offered to triple it but he did the wise thing and walked away.In hindsight it was a very very wise move on his part!
The way the employees were treated was really pathetic and those are not the only examples, that was when we knew that things were not as they seemed with this ministry.
Part 2 - Things fall apart....

28 comments:

The Devious One said...

What a shame that the things people would or will do in the name of God !

Well isnt that how we got colonized ?

Mzungu man had the Bible and we had the land...Mzungu man said, lets close our eyes and pray...when we opened our eyes...Mzungu man had the land and we had the Bible !


PS
me fao !

acolyte said...

@ devious one
And you think things are bad?Na bado!Wait for part 2!I think that many Africans are still colonised mentally, they think some things will only work if white people do them!
ps:Congrats!

dangerously_shy said...

2nd place..not bad...not bad...

Lol britannias??? how could you not be satisfied with such a sweet deal!!

Interesting post, nothing more to add - the Devious one (ngai eti devious? i reckon the mzungu missed this one lol)said it all and said it best so i eagerly await the second bit where things fall apart!!!

Ps- Aco, thanks for si you know what, didnt hurt as much as i thot it wld..felt a teeny prick then it was all over lol..

acolyte said...

@ D shy
My dear my days of Britannias ended in uni when we used to eat them by the box!It's good to hear that the procedure went well!:D

Girl next door said...

Well said: A church is a business! And they can get away with so much coz they'll bring up the name of God whenever it's convenient to guilt people and escape suspicion. There a few people with firm principles and good intentions but like any other cut-throat business, they won't rise high in the system coz it's all politics.

Joseph Walking said...

all i can say is that ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.if you can summarize christianity=white man/colonialism you have a long way to go.

The walk of faith is between you and God.People are not perfect dont base you realtionship on what man does but what God has done and is doing . stand before him in his throne room alone you and him.

acolyte you are more intelligent than this

Prousette said...

I was hoping Aco had finally met god from the title of the post lakini that is one interesting story.
You actually met the man behind that big idea...wow!! I remember it made waves in Nairobi, some even going as far as calling it demonic.
Wondered where his concept disappeared to but I guess from your story blown into many pieces.

Religion is BIG business, some of the richest we know started out as street preachers and now pass on the message of prosperity while milking the congregation dry. Washindwe!!
Can't wait for part two.

acolyte said...

@ girl next door
I do believe that churches should be ran well but money should not be the guiding light but sadly that is how things are today!
@ joe
The summary that christianity is colonialism is not mine but was one of the people who did comment.But you have to admit that among africans christian or not, there is an overwhelming approval of anything presented by a white man.That is how missionaries go to kenya and do more holiday then saving souls (a job we africans can do for ourselves).And you do know that I am a proponent of individual relationships between man and God and you have read me post on that, so quit coming to hasty conclusions please.
@ prou
Things get really hot in part 2!Whether we like it or not there are people who are milking the innocent dry.Oh the big man is a classic snake oils salesman!He can sell you your own underwear!

KenyanMusings said...

Ngai...vile that Thai joint in VM is expe haki......

acolyte said...

@ KM
Expe yes but the food!Magnificent!

Anonymous said...

That is how missionaries go to kenya and do more holiday then saving souls (a job we africans can do for ourselves).

Whether we like it or not there are people who are milking the innocent dry.Oh the big man is a classic snake oils salesman!

Acolyte said...

@ Anon
Thanks for passing by!I have said it time and again that we no longer need Missionaries, we can do that for ourselves.Read the other 2 parts and you will know how good a snake oil salesman he was!

Gertjanthetroubleman said...

This man used to be my friend and pastor here in Holland. A lot of people are in big problems (financialy, emotinaly) because of what he did. He manipulated people to do the thing God (Gertjan Agtereek) wants.Could you please stop that man overthere. Use the media or whatever but you probably don,t know the mess he created in a lot of lives from me and my beloved friends. Please help!!!

acolyte said...

@ gertjanthetroubleman
Well unfortunately the damage has been done over here!He has gone back to Holland, so I gather!So let me know if he has been seen again.

Gertjanthetroubleman said...

are you really really sure, he,s back to Holland. I don't think so. Nobody saw him here. How do you know. A few weeks ago some dutch had been with hin in Nairobi.

acolyte said...

@ gertjanthetroubleman
I thought that he would have gone back to Holland to escape all his debtors in Nairobi, but it seems that he managed to escape them.I hope the word has gone out in Nairobi as this man is not to be trusted!

Anonymous said...

Runda Estate

Runda Groove 282, Nairobi

Is the place where the fat man still lives & where he still is screwing all of us Kenians.

Anonymous said...

Gert Jan Agtereek is a dangerous manipulator & con man!
Many, many Kenyans are heavily duped by this creep and
hardly nobody seems to do anything against this crook.

So face it. We’re accepting the Mzungu’s colonialism again
and the land is still theirs.

acolyte said...

@ Anonymus 1
It is sad to know that Gertjan is still in Kenya spreading lies in the name of the gospel.
@ anonymus 2
It tears my heart into pieces to still realise that many Africans are still under the mental shackles of the white man.
It is possible for us to free ourselves from such people if we put our mind to it!

GertJanbiggestcheatereverman said...

http://360.yahoo.com/G_agtereek

acolyte said...

@ GertJanbiggestcheatereverman
Thanks for the link at least I can somehow keep an eye on him!

Anonymous said...

Runda Groove 282, Nairobi
It is said he aint living there anymore..
is that right ?
is his pasport taken from him ?
the man of hotel 680 started a case against him.
so he can't leave Kenya before paying his debtors.
is he fleeing ?
Do you guys know where he is ?

greetz from Holland

Anonymous said...

We don't know where GJ is. If you know it? Tell us!

I hope that the Kenyan people have the possibilities and the guts to prosecute the guy and put him away for a while!!

This man will never stop telling how great he is, how wonderfull it is to have enemies and to be accused of cheating and all the other things he is blamed for!

He completely lost common sense of what is right and what is wrong. A madman causing a lott of pain in the name of himself using the name of Christ.

Herman

Anonymous said...

The new addressOf Gert Jan Agteree (John) = :
River Side Estate, in Westlands ‘ .

Anonymous said...

VRIJDAG 24 NOVEMBER 2006 LEIDSCH DAGBLAD
TV- DOMINEE VS NEEMT AFSTAND VAN LEIDSE KERK
LEIDEN - De in christelijke kringen bekende Amerikaanse televisie-evangelist Jesse Duplantis distantieert zich van de omstreden Leidse pinksterkerk Great Commission Church International (GCCI).

Het bestuur van Jesse Duplantis Ministries heeft de kerk aan de Turkooislaan gevraagd de naam van Jesse Duplantis te schrappen van de lijst van 'board of directors' en is bezig met een onderzoek naar de beschuldigingen aan het adres van de Leidenaars.

,,We hebben geen enkel inzicht in hun financiƫle handelen'', laat bestuurslid Michael Wright in New Orleans telefonisch weten. ,,We zitten alleen in naam in dat board. We zijn geen deel van het leiderschap van GCCI en willen niet als zodanig worden genoemd. Als er sprake is van een schandaal dan willen wij daar part noch deel aan hebben''

Op de website van de GCCI staat ook een aanbevelingsbrief van Duplantis zelf. Hij schrijft dat hij 'gezegend en vereerd is dat hij in de board of directors zitting heeft'. Duplantis noemt GCCI een 'krachtig, verenigd front' met 'veel impact in de wereld'. Over de stichters van de kerk, Gertjan en zijn vrouw Margriet Agtereek, schrijft Duplantis op de site dat ze 'krachtige, gezegende en zeer integere mensen' zijn.

Wright zegt over de aanbevelingsbrief dat het 'juridisch erg ingewikkeld is om te eisen dat die van de site verdwijnt'. Jesse Duplantis Ministries wil geen veroordeling uitspreken over geloofsgenoten. ,,Als het zo is dat een van onze broeders is gevallen, dan willen we voor hem bidden en hem helpen.''

GCCI raakte vorig jaar in opspraak na beschuldigingen van voormalige leiders en leden. Die zeggen dat Agtereeks gemeente de leden manipuleert en uitknijpt en het geld over de balk gooit, waardoor de kerk in een miljoenenschuld is beland.

Sammy Micheni said...

I am the IT guy who refused a pay increase to go to Daystar University. N'way its very true those guys were real cheats and extremely extravagant. I hear they are still around but had to move from runda coz they could not afford rent anymore. Remember the dutch lady who used to stay with the langas? Saw her board a matatu 23 at odeon cinema stage with a man as black as me. Wonder if she got married in Kangemi
Those guys detroyed quite a number of people's careers esp those that had left God. Mind I had left a govt parastatal job to join them

GG said...

Hi guys can you believe the big guy GJ is threatening the langas to tell a lie to the press to save his skin i heard he even offered them money which i doubt he has someone please stop this guy he is dangerous.

Mwangi said...

A friend of mine whose folks are missionaries told me that apparently a large proportion of the mission workers in Africa are people who couldn't find employment in their own countries.......
Articles such as this, increase my inclination to believe that.